Mix together all ingredients except meat, mix really well. It will look like a rust colored sloppy mess. Then add meats and mix really well. If it seems a little too wet, add more bread crumbs. If it seems too dry, add a tad of milk, but will probably be more wet than dry. Mix til it seems to be getting sticky and will form a solid big ball. Turn into a glass baking dish and generously sprinkle black pepper all over the top. Bake at 400* for 1 hour. Remove from pan onto a plate and let stand 20 minutes before cutting.